Happily Ever After

Archive for December 2007

I am on clomid for my clomid challenge test this month. I am on day 4 of 100mg of clomid. I have been on clomid once before and all I did was have hot flashes and exhaustion/fatigue & nightmares. This time (I’m on twice the dosage i was the first time and it’s been about 1.5 years since then) I have fatigue/exhaustion, mood swings, irritability, hot flashes, nightmares, etc. needless to say I can’t wait for this cycle to be over! LOL. I go in on 1/2 for my blood work. I’m quite excited. I’m curious what my TSH will be by then. Not to mention my FSH! I really hope it turns out to be an ok number.

I also am hoping that it shows that my endometritis is gone. However on the other hand it would be nice to be able to stay on the antibiotics for a few more weeks just to be sure the infection is gone. A friend of mine on FF says that the bacteria multiplies rapidly so if there are ANY left over it will end up coming back again. She said I should be on the meds for about 3 weeks. I’d rather do it now so it will be gone for my IVF. I’m afraid my RE will tell me it’s not necessary. I’m hoping that even if he doesn’t think it’s necessary that he will let me go back on it. It can’t hurt so why not??


I went back and re read my entries through most of September. Why on earth did I do that? All it did was bring back all the pain of my past IVF’s. Not to mention the frustration of being almost 29 with no baby. I know I’m young compared to lots of people. I want a big family thought and I wanted to be done by 35. (preferably at 32-33). I hear the comment “lots of woman in their 40’s are having kids”. SO? I don’t want to be having my kids when I am 40.

Ok I should probably go do something and stop dwelling on this or I’ll be depressed all day.

Well I started Clomid today for the clomid challenge test.

I go back in for blood work on 1/2. If my FSH level is to high it will indicate diminished ovarian reserve. My FSH on day 3 was very good (6.4) Last time I was on clomid it was in 2005 and it was only 50mg. This time I’m on 100mg. The only side effect I had last time was hot flashes. At least it’s not the middle of summer! 🙂

I also got my TSH level back. It was higher then most doctors like it to be. My level was 4.68. My doctor is going to recheck it on 1/2 when I go in for blood work. A high TSH could indicate an under-active thyroid (hypothyroid).

I’ve read “symptoms” of hypothyroid and I seem to have some of them. Mainly high cholesterol (yes you read that right I have high cholesterol) fatigue/exhaustion, mood swings (although that could be lots of things) and weight gain. I’m NOT over weight by any means but I have gained over 10 lbs in the past year. I was underweight for my height and now I’m on the higher end for my height (if not slightly over). I’m happy with my weight but if I keep gaining that could be another story.

I asked my doctor if I could trigger ovulation with an HCG shot this month (since my body refuses to release eggs till they are GIGANTIC and old) but he said no. he said he “wants to see” what my body does “on it’s own”. *sigh* I have been through this with 2 different doctors. It’s like starting over. However he’s the doctor so I’ll do what he wants. I just figured since we are on clomid we might as well give it a shot this month. With out a trigger though I have pretty much no chance.

It’s kind of frustrating to be starting from scratch with another doctor but oh well. At least he is taking the time to do these tests. I’m hoping that he will look into my thyroid further (test my T4, T3 and antithyroid antibodies) I searched online and I can’t really find where it has a “normal” TSH level. One web site said it should be under 4.4. So according to that mine is not THAT bad. However woman on the FF forums say their doctors like it around a 2 for TTC. A over active (or under active)thyroid can be bad for a pregnancy. Not to mention these woman said they felt MUCH better once their thyroid was down to about a 2. I’d be curious to see if “fixing” it (getting down to a 2.0) would help me feel better. It’s amazing how an over active thyroid can really mess with your entire body. I never realized how much it effects things. It even can mess up a menstrual cycle. Who knows if that’s part of the reason I have issues in that area. (delayed ovulation, low progesterone due to a weak ovulation etc)

Well I got AF yesterday. She came just as I expected. I always have a 9 day LP with out progesterone support. My ovulation on my own is so weak and crappy.

I go in on 12/26 for blood work. I’ll be CD 4 but that is ok. I started AF mid day yesterday so it will be pretty close to being CD 3. I start the Clomid for the CCT on 12/27 and go in on 12/2 for my blood work to see what my FSH level is.

My AF this time is heavier and steadier. I’m hoping that means the antibiotics are working. One of the signs of Endometritis/bacterial infection is light periods. My doctors never sounded concerned that my periods were 1-2 days and very light. *rolls eyes*

There is a girl on FF who thinks the NuvaRing will make her more fertile because she got pregnant when she was on it at the age of 18. She is now 22 yo. Her doctor put her on the NuvaRing again to help her get pregnant. Her charts indicate PCOS but she claims she doesn’t have it. Yet she can go 7 months with out getting her period. UM…ok yeah that is totally normal.

My post:

to the OP It is rediculous that your doctor put you on BC to TTC. BC does not get you pregnant nor does it make you fertile.

NuvaRing® contains two types of hormones, estrogen and progestin (just like the pill), that prevent your ovaries from producing mature eggs.

It is extremely unlikely that you will ovulate on the nuva ring. The fact that you got pregnant on it in the first place is nothing but a complete miracle. Your temps don’t indicate ovulation. The reason they are probably spiking is because the NuvaRing has progesterone in it and progesterone causes high temps.

Kara-Your temps also don’t indicate ovulation. FF may put lines on your chart but don’t always trust what FF says. Your temp dipped so my guess is you have not ovulated yet. I’m thinking FF will take way your lines in a day or so or give you new ones.

Sorry if my post sounds harsh. If it’s offensive please let me know and I will delete my post. I hate to say it but it sounds like your doctor is wasting your time. Have you tried clomid yet? Your charts appear as though you have PCOS?

Her reply:

Hvnst2: I appreciate you opinion, but you do not know the situation. I have already gotten pregnant on the NR once, and have a beatiful 4 year old to prove it. My temps, if you look, have been 100% erratic before I got on the NR. I had a progesterone test today proving that I did indeed ovulate. My CNM called me with the restults an hour ago. My Prog. at the beginning of my cycle was normal for Pre-O and it is now above 50. I have low progesterone due to weight as it is. I dont not have PCOS, which was the original assumtion I made. That was proven incorrect – perfect ovaries ZERO cysts… yay! My CNM is not wasting anything as I’ve already been TTC for four years.

I know several women of “size” that have gotten pregnant on the NR. It does not work to prevent pregnancy if you’re weight is a certain amout out of the “normal” range for your height, says so on the foil pouch and the instructions.

Your post doesnt seem harsh, a little unsupportive but I can understand why. Most people frown at BC to achieve pregnancy, but it’s been done before. A lot of docs put women on BC to regulate cycles. Granted, once off the BC they are right back to where they were… but we’re hoping that this isnt the case w/me.

Obviously it’s working since my progesterone shows I’ve ovualted. If i am not pregnant this cycle, we’re going to do u/s next cycle to check follies and see where we’re at with that.

Clomid is usually not Rx’d for over weight women as it has a tendancy to cause weight gain, and lots of it. It may be the next step, but we’ll cross that bridge when we get to it. As of now, NR is doing what it did before and I’ll let you know when I’m pregnant.

Merry Christmas & God bless.

My reply:

Well good luck. I certainly hope you prove me wrong. I guess you can’t blame me for feeling the way I do. It just seems silly to go on BC to achieve pregnancy. I’ve never ever heard of that being done before (besides being put on the BCP to suppress my ovaries for IVF).

I wish you all the luck in the world and will look for your BFP announcement but no need to pm me or anything.

I have never been this annoyed in my life. This annoys me more then Brittany spears 16 yo sister getting knocked up.

Am I off base here? How on earth can someone be stupid enough to think that BC helps you get pregnant? The NuvaRing has estrogen and progesterone in it for goodness sakes. You’d be lucky to ovulate and if you get pregnant it is a miracle.

Just as the pain subsided. Just when I finally got myself back. Right when I was finally feeling happy again. I have to go read a post like that. All it does is bring back all the pain. All I want to do is just go cry. Why did I have to read that post? Why couldn’t I just stick to my IVF recyclers forum? I try to be a nice person and go on the other boards and respond to posts with helpful information. Occasionally I stumble upon a post like the aforementioned.

Now my question is this: How long will it take for this pain to go away again?

I finished my Christmas shopping today. I’ve never done shopping this late in the season. I don’t even want to ad up how much money we spent. It makes me sick to think about it. It just wasn’t a good year. Getting both heating systems in our appartement building replaced and the down payment on our car really has put us on a strict budget. By the end of January we should be fine. It’s just all the christmas gifts that has kind of put us on a very tight budget for a few months. I have no idea why…we are always able to pay out bills and save money every month. Oh well, it’s teaching us what it’s like to have to pinch pennies for a change…and…. I HATE IT!!! LOL. Jon is on School break and will be working full time for a month so that will help!

I’m feeling great about taking time off before I do my next IVF. I’m so happy I get to do the clomid challenge test next month. I doubt I’d get pregnant but if the bacteria is cleared up then I’d like to take advantage of it and try next month. I’m dreading even doing another IVF. See this is what happens when I take time off from IVF. it’s so much easier to handle if I just start BCP after I get AF. Once I realize how nice it is to have my mental/physical health back to normal it makes it very very hard to even think about doing another IVF. Last time I took 3 months off in between IVF #2 and #3. I had an anxiety attack after I got off the phone with the nurse. I cried for days. I felt sick to my stomach. Why any of us have to go through this is beyond me.

Anyhow, point is I’m enjoying being me again. 🙂

I just can’t get myself in the Christmas spirit. I STILL need to send out Christmas cards and I haven’t even bought gifts yet! DH and I do our shopping online but since we have 1 week till Christmas we might have to venture into the stores *gulp*

I don’t have a Christmas tree or any Christmas decoration in the house yet. I do have my decoration in the living room but they are still in the plastic container!

DH & I cleaned a bit this weekend. We also decided to re-arrange the living room on a whim. It looks much better the way it is.

I wish I could snap out of it and get myself excited for Christmas but I just can’t. Maybe getting a Christmas tree will help. I need to figure out where we are putting it so we can get one tomorrow!

Update: I did my Christmas cards today. I still have a few I need to do but those I don’t have to mail ( for Church friends) Now I just need to order our Christmas gifts (Jon and I are avid online shoppers) it’s great to shop in your PJ’s!